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 Fem-mando Early Crusader (APPROVED)

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Fem-mando Early Crusader (APPROVED)
« on: Nov 07, 2010, 07:22 PM »
Table of Contents

Page  1-Concept Art/Inspiration
Page  3-Helmet Base
Page  4-Horns Added to Helmet
Page  5-Visor Cut Out and Raised Area Around Visor Added
Page  6-Hose Attachment Added to Helmet
Page  9-Painted Helmet and Start of Mythosaur Axe
Page 10-Tutorial on Building a Mythosaur Axe
Page 13-Pre-painted Mythosaur Axe and Start of Mandalorian Ripper
Page 14-Almost Completed Helmet (minus hoses)
Page 15-More Helmet Pictures
Page 17-Pre-painted Mandalorian Ripper
Page 18-Tutorial on How to Paint Bone
Page 20-Painted Mandalorian Ripper
Page 23-Painted Mythosaur Axe and Start of Backpack
Page 28-Pre-painted Backpack
Page 32-Start of Leather Chest Piece
Page 33-Painted Backpack
Page 34-Start of Armor
Page 35-Painted Armor
Page 37-Start of Shoulders
Page 38-Spikes added to Shoulders and Painted Shoulders
Page 42-Gloves and Jacket
Page 43-Finished Ripper
Page 45-Leather Chest Hose Attachment
Page 45-Helmet Hose Attachment
Page 46-Finished Axe
Page 47-Start of Upper Body Set-Up
Page 50-Upper Body Test Fit
Page 51-Metal Trim Seal added to Leather Chest Piece and Character Idea
Page 53-Metal Trim Seal added to Back
Page 54-Loop for Axe Support
Page 55-Shoulder Danglies
Page 56-Finished Leather Chest Piece
Page 58-Finished Belt
Page 59-Weathered Jacket
Page 60-Start of Loin and Butt Cloths, Leather Arm Wraps Test and Weathered  Ripper Leather Grip
Page 62-Arm Wraps Test 2
Page 64-Half Gauntlets with Arm Wraps and Finished Ab Plate strap
Page 65-Leather Bracer
Page 68-Hand Plates
Page 69-Boot Set-up
Page 70-Boot Zipper Covered
Page 71-Padded Helmet and Shoulder Test
Page 72-Character Sigil Added to Helmet
Page 73-Holster Concept
Page 74-Finished Gaunts
Page 75-Full Upper Body Test Fit
Page 77-Finished Holster
Page 78-Finished Back Pouch
Page 81-Application Pictures
Page 88-"Bondo Sculpting" Tutorial


Hello all. Been lurking around since my son came to me one day and said he wanted to be Boba Fett. So since I was always more a Princess Leia and Jedi fan, I started researching everything Mandalorian, which brought me here.  The original plan was for this to be something he and I did together, but shortly into scratch building his helmet, his little sister wanted in too. So to the back burner my kit went. Well now that theirís are finished, or mostly so, I can start mine.

For those of you who were at Dragon*Con this year and were kind enough to pose for a picture with my kids, I just want to say a big, BIG ďthank youĒ, they had so much fun. They literally still havenít stop talking about it.
   
When I was lurking I came across this guy, and something about him just really struck me.

So I decided to feminize him, and this is what I came up with. The only thing Iím not sure about is the back pouch.  CRLís state no modern pouches and the ones they have seem modern to me, so I wanted to go with a more primative/gutteral interpretation, but I just donít know if it fits?




I plan to start with scratch building the helmet, and have a template drawn out.  My question is, this particular crusaderís helmet doesnít seem to have cheeks, more of a flat face. Does that seem right? I understand most helms from the early period seemed to be one of a kind, no two looked alike. My template has an elongated point at the chin which then curves higher up towards the back then a modern helm. I wanted to do a traditional dome as well, with the horns, not the aero biker helmet dome Iíve seen, is that okay? Also, if you look closely his t-visor seems to be more jagged, not a clean cut. I really liked that, is my interpretation of that okay? Sorry lots of questions. Any information you guys can give me on what you know about crusader helms would be greatly appreciated before I start.

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Re: Fem-mando Early Crusader
« Reply #1 on: Nov 07, 2010, 07:34 PM »
Those kits look great I can't wait to see what you do for yourself. Your design also looks good

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Re: Fem-mando Early Crusader
« Reply #2 on: Nov 07, 2010, 07:45 PM »
Your kids' costumes look awesome! It looks like you were all able to have a lot of fun together with this.

I really like your female Neo Crusader idea! I think that 'primitive' pouch you've come up with definitely looks like it belongs, but I can't make any official say on the matter. It looks aesthetically sound, though!

I'll be sure to keep an eye on this project... I can't wait to see what you come up with!

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Re: Fem-mando Early Crusader
« Reply #3 on: Nov 07, 2010, 07:55 PM »
i dont think that the face is flat i just think its relatively flatter i would suggest going with the same type of cheeks that u did for your kits only a little less pronounced. also i dont see that crusaders face jagged it could just be the angle of the pic, but like you said, the helmets are all one of a kind. and id like to see the type of dome your wanted to make this out of just for reference. other than that it looks like u got a great idea unfolder here and dont worry bout all the questions , we all do it so no worrys :D]

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Re: Fem-mando Early Crusader
« Reply #4 on: Nov 07, 2010, 08:11 PM »
very cool concept. love the kids armor!

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Re: Fem-mando Early Crusader
« Reply #5 on: Nov 07, 2010, 08:18 PM »
Thanks for all the nice comments on my kids kits guys.

Arch-glad you think it looks aesthetically sound, lol, I didnít want to have all that bone color on the front side and just the back plate on the back so I thought of making the pouch bone colored as well.

LT. Sazh-Sorry, Iím not being very clear, I mean a modern style dome just with the horns.  And  Iím asking if the ďTĒ has to be ruler straight or if I can do the more jagged look I have drawn out. Thanks for that about the cheeks, I was thinking of doing them less pronounced as you suggested too, I just wasnít sure.

Aíden-??WHAT?? I thought youíd have an answer to ALL my questions, Please help! lol ;)

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Re: Fem-mando Early Crusader
« Reply #6 on: Nov 07, 2010, 08:29 PM »
Sorry, have a birthday party going on right now concentrating on reading is tough lol!

Anyway, your interpretations seem to be pretty spot on and your visor design is fine. As for the dome and the helmet itself, I honestly thing the best way to do with it is to start with a bike helmet as a base and design the helmets "body" from that base. You can get bike helmets, skateboarding helmets etc., in a variety if shapes and designs from smooth to something that could be manipulated to look like a rough bone skull dome.

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Re: Fem-mando Early Crusader
« Reply #7 on: Nov 07, 2010, 08:42 PM »
Aíden- Okay thanks, I just wanted to make sure I didnít have to use one of those aerodynamic bike helmets with the point coming off the back cause I really donít like those. lol

No offense to those that have used them ;D

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Re: Fem-mando Early Crusader
« Reply #8 on: Nov 07, 2010, 09:02 PM »
aside from the helmet, wat will u be using to make the armor itself?

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Re: Fem-mando Early Crusader
« Reply #9 on: Nov 07, 2010, 09:29 PM »
LT. Sazh-Well Iím definitely not going with any kind of plastic, went that route with my kids and Iím still cursing it! I saw over in the armor thread Squirrel and Tracyíuurís Cardboard/resin/fiberglass plates and I thought I might try that. Did you have any suggestions?

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Re: Fem-mando Early Crusader
« Reply #10 on: Nov 07, 2010, 09:54 PM »
personally, i always use sintra, its an easier substance to work with and im more used to it, but i think that using cardboard for some of the pieces that look more like boney and veiny at the same time, would be a good choice, but also , how will u be doing those raised areas and "spines" on the armor?  ohh and no need to call me Lt. Sazh is fine to so no worries :D

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Re: Fem-mando Early Crusader
« Reply #11 on: Nov 07, 2010, 10:12 PM »
Sazh-I thought that lonewolf1183ís build up with sintra/bondo/epoxy putty for the mohawk of his pilot helmet was pretty ingenious, so I thought Iíd try that, basically sculpting on those raised parts. A question about sintra- I know you heat it then shape it and it sets, but how is it long term? Does it stay in itís shape well? How does adding anything like bondo to it surface affect it, does bondo stay fused well to it?

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Re: Fem-mando Early Crusader
« Reply #12 on: Nov 07, 2010, 10:33 PM »
well from working with sintra for a while, i know that it retains its shape untill reheated, and i mean HEATED, so unless your gunna be in the 100 + temps daily with the armor, you most likely wont experience any warping, i know for a fact that sintra i use is about 1/8 of an inch and its melts when heated and stays solid when i want it to be, the 6mm sintra i have seen is exceptionally good becasue it heats slowly and most definately stays in shape.
as for the bondo question, i havent worked with bondo as of now, but i assume that if put bondo to sintra then it should stay keep in mind , SHOULD. But im guessing that if you scratch out the sintra a little bit, ie sand or knife etch the areas where u want bondo, it will adheer better i belive. So yea, hope that helps , and i havent seen lonewolfs mohawk, but a buddy of mine, made his outta sintra and bondo and its holding up nicely as well.

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Re: Fem-mando Early Crusader
« Reply #13 on: Nov 07, 2010, 10:35 PM »
Sintra holds it's shape beautifully. Best plastic to use if you go that route. I'm using it to make the base of some parts of my early crusader armor and covering it in thin leather (the rest will be, hopefully, completely leather). I prefer epoxy putty for it's adhesion to sintra, if you were thinking of using something to sculpt the horns/ridges/etc straight onto the sintra. It's also a lot tougher than bondo, though, admittedly, more expensive.

I actually found a ski helmet to use as the base of mine; it's certainly got the oblong shape. But I wouldn't recommend one of those new. . .I just happened to luck out at Goodwill so if you have decent thrift stores around might find something spiffy there.

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Re: Fem-mando Early Crusader
« Reply #14 on: Nov 07, 2010, 11:27 PM »
Thanks Sazh and Kora, all your input has been really helpful, I appreciate you taking the time to help me out.  I plan on doing my flight suit and upper body section out of leather as well. What epoxy putty do you use Kora- I had indeed planned on using that for the horns and stuff.

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