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 Zophar Ptay - Late Crusader Engineer [Index in first post]

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #250 on: May 15, 2012, 08:54 PM »
NOW GET TO WORK ON YOUR 'GAM!

yessir, boss.   I'll get on the squats and leg-presses and cycling and jogging...


Every time I hear that word I think we're in some 30's film instead of Star Wars :P

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #251 on: May 15, 2012, 08:57 PM »
lol...

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #252 on: May 15, 2012, 10:53 PM »
Beautiful day for a BBQ... so while waiting for the charcoal to kick, I mixed up some resin and finally got started on the first shoulder.

What was that I heard?  Pix or GTFO?  Don't mind if I do...


and remember kids, safety first!  We don't want to be like a Jedi family and lose all sorts of limbs...


I used a dollar-store foam brush which started having issues halfway through the application.  If you use a traditional brush, can the brush be salvaged somehow to reuse or is it a one-shot thing no matter which brush you use?  Also, would it be alright to mix a second batch of resin in the same tupperware cup after the first is fully cured? [say, tomorrow evening?]

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #253 on: May 15, 2012, 11:57 PM »
You can do that re-use conatainer thing with bondo, jsut bend the container a bit to make the resin crack off?     as for the brush, use a piece of metal or caothanger wire or somethign to mix it if you want to save your brush for the actualy brushing, and there are also these rubber paint trowel sort of things by hthe bondo line of products that could be good for distributing resin, and as for salvaging the brush, maybe try haveing a cup of turpentine to sitkc the brush in once your done before it cures?

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #254 on: May 16, 2012, 06:22 AM »
I always use natural bristle brushes I pick up for a $1 each. I found anything else tends to melt a bit.

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #255 on: May 16, 2012, 04:13 PM »
Did you widen those shoulders? Cuz they look wider  :laugh: Glad to see ya gettin some work done man!

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #256 on: May 16, 2012, 04:41 PM »
No, in fact I trimmed them in to the more triangular shape from the sketches.  The top-down view was always very wide though

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #257 on: May 16, 2012, 04:46 PM »
Hmm.......iiiinteresting.......

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #258 on: May 16, 2012, 07:10 PM »
No, in fact I trimmed them in to the more triangular shape from the sketches.  The top-down view was always very wide though

I see. I guess I just haven't seen them from that top-down view  :blank:  My bad....

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #259 on: May 17, 2012, 09:29 PM »
first shoulder currently has three coats resin-only on outside, and two resin-only inside and waiting on a cloth layer inside to cure.  I'm thinking a second cloth layer perpendicular to this one this evening, then a very thin skim of bondo outside this weekend and I can start sculpting methinks.  That sounds like it should be a pretty bombproof build or should I go thicker on the cloth inside?

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #260 on: May 17, 2012, 09:46 PM »
No cloth on the outside?

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #261 on: May 17, 2012, 09:49 PM »
wasn't planning to, no.   Cloth inside for a few layers and a thick gellcoat outside before bondo and paint

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #262 on: May 18, 2012, 09:18 PM »
Who is looking forward to their long weekend?




This guy!

 

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #263 on: May 18, 2012, 09:40 PM »
Oh man....that is'nt a JobMate rotery tool is it?    I have a vendetta with those things....mine always ended up failing me at the worst of times, and if you overtighten the chuck it then breaks. Good luck with it though!  :laugh:

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #264 on: May 18, 2012, 09:43 PM »
Nope, a Craftsman that I've had and been using for a good seven or eight years.  They [used to?] offer a lifetime warranty on all their tools, and I've not had an issue with it.  I'm a stickler for name-brands when it comes to things that I want to last :P

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #265 on: May 18, 2012, 09:49 PM »
Same lol-Mastercraft has a pretty good warrenty and I know 85% of the staff from school lol, so they are complete di'kuts when it comes to warrenty exchanges...buy broken mastercraft crowbar at garage sale, return for $30 store credit and buy $30 in paint >:)


and that is the story of how I managed to buy a $50 can of bondo.......you save about $20 if you were to buy the same amount in the 1pnt cans you know...as for the fiberglassing, you could also probably make a couple of the helmet greebs (like mohawk for example) out of wood and use a couple screws and fiberglass the thing on. Gas Mask cartridges could be done in the same fasion....as I amy do on my DESTROYER someday.....not sure.

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [request for help - p17]
« Reply #266 on: May 19, 2012, 11:47 AM »
Phew!  That's lookin' sweeeeet!!!!

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sun likely won't be up much longer so here is the current state...  all of the flashing is removed and I threw on a thin coat of filler primer to get an idea of what needs sanding and filling and bondo and sanding and fixing and sanding... tomorrow I'll be out all day, but I'm off Monday so I can start on the bondo skin and see where it goes from there.  Hopefully I can get at least the first tier built up.  Planning to use the weather-stripping method for the build-up height so the steps will be nice and even.




I don't know what that gloop is on the right corner; excess primer or errant resin.. it'll get sanded out either way when I get to smoothing it all out.

Clearly it needs a lot of work yet, but progress is being made, and so far it has gone faster/better than expected.  I also picked up the base color paint for my kit.  Going with Rust-oleum universal advanced formula [the cans with the trigger-style tops] Aged Copper metallic flaked paint which looks to me far more like bronze than their bronze one did.

guess that is the update for tonight....

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [shoulder ready for filler - p18]
« Reply #268 on: May 19, 2012, 11:39 PM »
Hmm....at this rate you'll be done by the time SW:EPVII comes out!  :laugh: jk lol

patience is paramount , if you rush things you may as well have not done it at all. Again:bondoglass is stronger the pink bondo....so keep that in mind for structural stuff, the pink I suppose is fine as somewhat of a spot-filler, but the fiberglass reinforced stuff is were the real strength is at. Bondo glass is not all that much better than the shortstrand bondo hair, IMO you should use the BondoHair.

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [shoulder ready for filler - p18]
« Reply #269 on: May 20, 2012, 01:14 AM »
No kidding.  Went out with the wife today to do some errands, ended up not getting home till dinner time... so much for getting work done.  Maybe Monday.  work and family life make for slow progress, but they come first.

I don't think I'll need bondoglass, the whole thing will add less than an inch to the height and the fibergalss and resin are strong enough that I can barely flex it at all right now, so strength isn't what I need to worry about.  bondo with a skin of resin to protect it should suffice from what I've been reading.

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [shoulder ready for filler - p18]
« Reply #270 on: May 20, 2012, 09:34 AM »
Looking good Zophar! Can't wait to see the next steps take shape and see the piece really come alive.


Again:bondoglass is stronger the pink bondo....so keep that in mind for structural stuff, the pink I suppose is fine as somewhat of a spot-filler, but the fiberglass reinforced stuff is were the real strength is at. Bondo glass is not all that much better than the shortstrand bondo hair, IMO you should use the BondoHair.

I don't think I'll need bondoglass, the whole thing will add less than an inch to the height and the fibergalss and resin are strong enough that I can barely flex it at all right now, so strength isn't what I need to worry about.  bondo with a skin of resin to protect it should suffice from what I've been reading.

I'm with Zophar on the Bondo-Glass, while yes your correct that it is stronger it is also a whole heck of alot heavier and is twenty times harder to sand. I've also had more problems damage wise from it than the regular old lightweight pink stuff because being heavier and the whole issue of gravity when dropped it hits that much harder resulting in more damage. At least in my case. In the end everyone has their favorites in materials they like to work with and while suggestions are always appreciated we need to respect the choices they decide to go with.

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [shoulder ready for filler - p18]
« Reply #271 on: May 20, 2012, 01:00 PM »
I noticed that the bondo-hair is actualy a bit lighter, if you look at the $50 cans, they (from what I have seen) are the same volume, same price, but the ones with more fiberglass in them are actualy a bit lighter weight than the pink stuff. I think it has some of the same formula pink bondo in it, but just with a diferent base pigment to diferenciate between mixes. But yea-If I were you I would take the good weather to glass the other pieces that are ready as well.

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [shoulder ready for filler - p18]
« Reply #272 on: May 26, 2012, 12:45 AM »
alright, I'm going to lose the sun again so here's a quick update.  It needs another coat of primer and some light sanding to get rid of some of the deeper grooves from the high-grit earlier, but as for general shape, I think this is about it for the base.  It is also becoming clear that at this rate there is no way I'll be ready in time for C6 so I am deciding on which corners to cut and save as future upgrades.  Connecting the chest and the back into a one-piece is on the back burner for the time being, and I was thinking of leaving the shape of the shoulders like this and adding the raised sculpting later.  I'd appreciate an app team ruling on that if i may, or are they still too similar to the halo shoulders they are based off of?   here are current shots and an image of the original halo shoulder as it was intended to be built.




The shoulder was built off of a model for the right shoulder of a Halo Wars MJOLNIR Mark IV Armor as seen here: 
 

and here fro those who don't following a link for a reallly nice walk-around of the armour the shoulder model was pulled from that I can't directly link for some reason.

I like to think they are not identifiable but I'm not a little biased on the matter :P

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [shoulder ready for filler - p18]
« Reply #273 on: May 26, 2012, 12:56 AM »
I personaly, would not have noticed them being halo shoulders.

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Re: Late Crusader in planning [shoulder ready for filler - p18]
« Reply #274 on: May 26, 2012, 08:46 AM »
Good mod vod, I wouldn't have recognized it as being Mark 4 armor at all.  ;D

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