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Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« on: May 09, 2012, 07:46 AM »
Hi all,

I'd just like to start this thread by addressing the pretextural awkwardness of being "Big" by defining what being a bigger Mando means, I think a lot of members skirt around the issue to avoid offending people. I am a big guy, so I'm not so afraid to be open and honest about my size and hopefully break the last social taboo and talk about it, I also encourage you all to talk about it and put your ideas and discoveries forward.

I used to be a pro wrestler, so I weightlifted for a while to get my body big, once I stopped, well, my belly speaks for itself, but that's ok, regardless of my size, I am a costumer and kids don't really care.

What I do want to do is address some of the problems I see with other larger members, so let's drop the embarrassment and talk about costuming from a factual sense.

First thing to do is drop any sort of ideal apart from the CRLs, this is a CUSTOM Mandalorian site, you are not expected to fit in with social norms, you're not movie canon, so you are perfectly fine the way you are, you are aiming to become a member of a club where your individuality and contributions are respected. So stop comparing yourself to someone 2 sizes down from you and design your kit so it compliments your form.

Now, I do not claim to be the be all and end all of looking good in a kit, but I am happy with 90% of the photos of me because I believe my kit works for me and my size so that it is comfortable and moves with me.

This is me out of kit:



I am the guy in the Mercs shirt (naturally). I also happen to be standing next to the skinniest guy in the world, just to accenuate that I have a belly and wrestler's shoulders, my girlfriend loves me, I am walking to tackle my ever growing weight to beer ratio and I'm ok with it!

This is me in armour:



You may not agree with me but I look a little less beer belly and more rugged in the armour.

So, to help you bigger guys and gals, here are some tips that I think will help you to look good in your armour.

1. Girthbelt or a sash is essential, it smooths out the line where your gut overhangs your pelvis, it's a "thinning" tactic that has been used in posh dressing for centuries.

2. Make sure your gutplate (and vest) cuts off at your navel. I've noticed that some guys try to cover the expanse of their guts with larger plates, believe it or not the navel cut away working with the girthbelt or sash actually slims you.

3. You can modify plate design to slim you too. Niabi's kit shows you a way that you can also use armour plates to perform the same function as the girthbelt:



Note that Niabi's plates still follow the convention that the gut plate ends at the navel, he has also shaped the plates to trick the eye into following a thinner contour of his body.

4. Modify your collar plate for comfort and to make your shoulders look bigger. What I am saying here is that your plates can fool people into seeing your body in a different contour, you look (and feel, let's face it, we all want to look good in our armour) better. I cut the edges off my collar plate as they were sticking into the muscle where the pectoral meets the shoulder. Niabi's smaller collar plate makes his shoulders look bigger to the eye.

5. A cloak can hide love handles and back fat:

Here's me in armour:



and here's a picture where my cloak got snagged behind my jet pack, revealing my true girth...



I am so going to need therapy after this...

As you can see a cape can help hide the rear and help with the illusion of looking smaller than you really are.

6. Remember that Boba Fett wasn't really seen at the sides, he was a "front on" cool guy. There are very few shots of Boba side on, as most of his effect was front on, in fact the attraction of men is the front on view, so ensure that your front on view works the best it possibly can.

Anyhoo, those are my tips, if anyone's got further ideas, I know I'd be interested in them.

Ok, now for the ground rules:

1. I am opening this debate to frank discussion, if you are uncomfortable with your size or talking about it, then this thread may not be the best place for you.

2. Having said that, this club thrives on mutual respect and members should still be mindful about people's feelings when talking here.

Have at it guys!

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Re: Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2012, 10:57 AM »
I think that you look great in your armor. It hides the size well. This thread will be great for the larger mandos.

Also, what about darker plates? Black is slimming, correct?

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Re: Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2012, 11:18 AM »
Yay for us fatties!   :laugh:

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Re: Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 01:19 PM »
Another thing to look out for is having a good fitted flight suit/coveralls for your kit, nothing too tight or too loose.

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Re: Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 03:19 PM »
Great idea Saz, I went ahead and stickied it.

Another thing to consider as a big guy is rather than trying to hide it, embrace it.

Im 6'06" 280lbs. and I carry my own fuel tank. I have alot of real estate to cover or leave blank in a costume. I have tried a variety of armor ideas. I started with medium coverage, moved to light, back to medium/light then back up to medium. All that time I always felt uncomfortable as I felt "naked" in my armor. I spent so much time trying to hide my size.

Then I had an epiphany... I went heavy armor. I embraced my real estate to make myself a walking costumed tank!

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Re: Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 06:08 PM »
1. As a big guy - This whole section is a win.

2. Add to the conversation
   -Make sure everything fits.  Nothing sows off your excess like parts too big or too small.
     Soft parts
     *too snug - Everyone can see everything, no hiding it - no matter how much armor
     *too loose - Adds to your bulk and extra fabric spills everywhere.

    Armor
    *too small and you look like your trying to wear kids armor
    *too big and you can't move in it and it looks
    *Don't go light - Even with the correct size plates you have a lot of real estate to cover.
    *Must agree- there is no such thing as too heavy  :D

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Re: Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2012, 06:25 PM »
This should be a very helpful thread as I am 6'5 & 425ish with a 24 neck and a 71 chest with 33 shoulder width so I'm pretty sure I count as a BIG guy. Lol  :D

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Re: Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 10:06 PM »
5' 10", 350lbs.  I'm looking at making a wide kidney belt out of vinyl and multiple chopped up belts for my ammo belts.  Also, If you are a XXL mando, become friends with your sewing machine.  NOTHING comes in our size.  One last thing, big guns can also be slimming.  S'truth.

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Re: Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 01:06 AM »
Thanks for starting this topic I'm certain it will help many of that are of larger stature as I like to put it. Would it be ok tonpost picks of ourselves as examples?

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Re: Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2012, 03:54 AM »
If people want to do that, I see no issue. :)

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Re: Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2012, 04:44 AM »
Saz I got a bone to pick with you!
You started off by saying you'd break a taboo but you didn't, Falin did... I did.

Guys stop trying to hide your gut, or "slim" it down. Embrace it!

Custom Mando... let's think about this for a minute, really think about it.

Boba / Jango repaint with surface mods?
no, that only works on guys with a shape approaching that of the actors.

I'm 6'2" and just under 300lbs, yep I'm one of YOU!
I drink diet soda so I can have my full-flavor, non-diet Supreme and Meat lovers pizzas.

I wear full armor that now wraps all around me and tucks under my back plate.
I had issues shaping my gut and upper chest to look the way I wanted, so I embraced a single vertical plate design. Think roman centurion and the old joke that they used to have sculpted abs so they could pour their bellies into them.

If you have the size... USE IT! Stop trying to be a skinny Fett mando.
Be that beer-guzzling, ex-wrestler or cop or whatever MANDO! In universe we are all essentially Civilians with a military fetish, civilians come in all shapes and sizes and so does their gear.
There is no shame in being a big mando who wears big plates!

And there is my bone to pick with Saz and many others. Your plates are too small. They float on the front of your chest and belly and you look great from the front... and nowhere else.
Many people don't seem to believe in resizing plates horizontally and just pick whatever plate size they need to make it all line up neatly on the vertical.
Guys if you have a belly.. skew those plates sideways. You don't have to sacrifice the standard cut design but make it cover more acreage horizontally. Then you have less to hide with a cape...

Let's think back in universe, what oversized mando would bother with plates only on the front?
One shooter off center and you'd be toast. Custom plates would be the order of the day, no?

Be honest with yourselves, identify your weakness and work with it... don't just try to cover it up because you are selling yourselves short.

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Re: Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2012, 06:08 AM »
So in a round about way you're saying my kit looks rubbish?

Look, I've broken the taboo by addressing the issue and offering my advice to how I would achieve a similar slimming effect and allowing larger members to feel comfortable about talking about their size in response to finding the best solution for them. Falin's method also has merit, but whilst I respect that point of view, if I personally wanted to spend the time strapping plates to myself I'd have joined the 501st.

Whilst you are free to have your opinion, others don't share it, my plates are fine and are shaped to my body, my sash covers my gut and I am well above crl compliance. A couple of days ago I was talking to larger members of other groups who saw my kit and decided that on the form I presented, they are looking to join based on the fact my kit looks good despite me being fat.

Picking a bone with me is making the assumption you are right, and while your opinion has merit for some members, let's not turn this thread into a pissing contest please?

This thread is for people to make a decision for themselves by members showing examples of how it's done and discussing ideas. There is no one way to solve the issue, which is why I put this thread up in the first place. So, instead of taking a crack at how other people have decided to do the issue Ghostwalker, try being helpful and posting your kit up, so you can at least show them the way you think is best to covering that girth.

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Re: Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2012, 06:51 AM »
I think the plates in these photos fit just fine...

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Re: Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2012, 06:56 AM »
Another thing to think about is the use of color.  The colors you use will greatly enhance, or subtract from your overall "largeness".  Basically, your creating an illusion based on color.

The first rule of color for "bigguns":  Less is more!

To use Saz's kit as the example.  He's using black for his flight suit and secondary paint apps, which create a blending effect that effectively makes him look thinner from certain positions.  Another plus is the use of primarily horizontal stripes on his torso armor paint apps, which have a slimming effect.

Finally, using the red girth sash draws the viewers eyes away from what's around the belly and instantly into the ammo pouches.

Try to stick to 1 primary, 1 secondary, and 1 (maybe 2) accessory colors. 

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Re: Armour tips for the bigger Mando
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2012, 01:31 PM »
Saz, thanks for posting this.  I think everyone here has covered all the topics I would have brought up, but I'll probably post a few pics of myself later with examples of how I utilize my bigness. :D

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