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 Sirus the Red First Build WIP (Upgrades start page 25!)

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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #60 on: Sep 13, 2012, 11:57 AM »
just keep in mind you can't mix those with any Krylon paints

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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #61 on: Sep 13, 2012, 12:13 PM »
just keep in mind you can't mix those with any Krylon paints

Thanks for the tip Dresdon, though I wasn't really planning on adding Krylon to the mix with Rustoleum. Those are all the colors I'll need for my kit.

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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #62 on: Sep 13, 2012, 12:28 PM »
Youre going to nee dsome more modding on that gun to pass muster. Per the CRL's all screw holes need to be filled and smoothed. If there are any raised or embossed warning, logos, copywrites they have got to go as well. I would add some greeblies or scopes to it as well to hide it's origin a bit more and bring it more into that "chunky greeblied" 70's future tech look.

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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #63 on: Sep 13, 2012, 12:47 PM »
Youre going to nee dsome more modding on that gun to pass muster. Per the CRL's all screw holes need to be filled and smoothed. If there are any raised or embossed warning, logos, copywrites they have got to go as well. I would add some greeblies or scopes to it as well to hide it's origin a bit more and bring it more into that "chunky greeblied" 70's future tech look.

Thanks Falin, and I'm well aware that it's going to need some mods. Screw holes and seams will be filled once I'm done messing with the barrels. I lucked out in the fact that there's no copyright or warning labels on the pistol, and any text that is on it is just painted on. I don't think I'll be adding any scopes or anything to it, but I'll definitely be adding greebs to it, and I might even add some sintra on the outside of it to give it more of a boxy, angled look to it. My original intent was to make it look more like a heavy pistol anyway, and it'll need some beefing up for that.

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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #64 on: Sep 13, 2012, 03:43 PM »
I'll flip through my GUNS '99 magazine for some examples I have in mind that you may like for the blaster pistol based on slide integrated muzzle breaks


CZ100
IAI GAL M5000
WALTHER P5   (nice greebly placement IMO if you used it as an example)
WITNESS GOLD TEAM
DAN WESSON SUPERMAG
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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #65 on: Sep 17, 2012, 11:44 PM »
Thanks for the references Dresdon, I'll certainly have to take a few cues from these when the time comes to greeb up my pistol. Speaking of which, here's a small progress report on it:



I gutted a few more of the non-essential plastic pieces on the inside of the pistol to make room to mount a larger PVC barrel and a dowel to mount my bayonet. The dowel is about as thick as the bayonet, and I had to sand it down a tad so that I could drill a hole into the bayonet that wouldn't tear the thing apart. The topmost section of the bayonet did crack just a bit, though I'm not too concerned, as that section will probably be covered by sintra before long. I might dab some wood filler on it just to be safe though.

I have to say, I do like the extended barrel look of this thing. The parralel sillouette with the bayonet just appeals to me. Anyway, The barrel has already been trimmed by about half an inch or so since this picture, since I would still like the bayonet to look like it could be used for stabbing as well as chopping. However long I do decide to make the barrel, the upper body section of the pistol will be replicated with sintra a bit to give it a beefier, heavy pistol look. the exposed dowel mount for the bayonet will also likely be covered up. I'm really excited to see how this thing turns out.

I also got some more work done on my blastsword today, mainly blade sanding, nothing noticable enough to really warrant another picture, so I'll wait until the guard is pretty much finished before I post anymore of that.

And I have decided to finally get off my shebs and start putting together and bondoing my helmet this week. I ordered a visor from T-visor.com, as well as a sheet of red acetate to give line the outside of it with to pull off my red visor effect that I so dearly want.  Those should be here within the week, but until then, let me just go over the order of helmet operations one more time.

First, glue helmet together with very strong glue (suggestions?)
Second, apply bondo to all the seams on the outside, especially the dome of the helmet.
Third, sand it smooth. I picked up 3 packs of sandpaper the other day (80, 120, and 220 grit) I'm assuming I use the rougher grits to even most of the bondo out, then use the smoother grits to really smooth it out. I've also heard multiple times that wet sanding is a good idea, I'd appreciate if soemone wanted to explain that process to me.
Fourth, Paint? As you can see above, I think I have a pretty good understanding of the painting process, but that's just because no one's really pointed out to me if I was wrong or not, lol!

I do apologize for all the questions, and I appreciate that you guys put up with them.

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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #66 on: Sep 18, 2012, 05:45 PM »
JB weld can bond PVC, Bondo, Plastic, metal, and ABS very well, you could glue those in with JB if you want, and sicen that's a hollow gun you could have the inside painted silver, and have a clear tube in there that perhaps lights up?


WETSAND:
{ tan-1 sandpaper[x2>(y=7/19 x-47.135 )(icecream bucket of water2x3.141592654) ] }=(smooth bondo yds-1 ) 3


-in other words, stick your sandpaper in water, sand that thing, regularly cleaning the sandpaper off in water, eat some pie after 5 hours of wetsanding, get abck to work wetsanding, and eventualy youll have a smooth helmet with minimal dust, and if you do as much wetsanding as I ahve your driveaway will ahve a large pinish/red streak of bondo dust for the rest of the tim period until the next rainfall.

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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #67 on: Sep 18, 2012, 06:11 PM »
Thanks Dresdon, your help is proving invaluable to my build. Your Wetsanding equation did give me a bit of a scare though, especially since I had literally JUST finished a marathon of Statistics homework. Though after the intitial shock, it was hilarious!

So JB weld will work for both my pistol and my helmet then? How long does it take to dry? Or does that depend on what version of it I buy?

My original plan for those pistol vents was to lay some strips of sintra on the inside so that I still had the vent texture, but there wasn't a gaping hole in my gun. I've been thinking about putting some lights both in my pistol and my blastsword, I'll have to give my neighbor who does some lightwork for Disney a call and tap into some of his knowledge. I should have some left over red acetate sheet from my visor, I could probably put strips of that instead of sintra. Now forgive the noobish question, but would painting the inside silver help with any light effects I put in?

And one last stupid question: Should the bondo wetsanding be done at any specific point in the sanding process, or can it be done from start to finish? I'm assuming this is going to be a time-consuming process, but from what I've heard it will be worth it.

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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #68 on: Sep 18, 2012, 06:24 PM »
JB Qwik-set takes 4-10mins, so I suggest Ethyl2 Cyanoacrylate adhesive, their like $1.79 for a 2ml tube, so if you spend $20 on that stuff, you could do like...2 helmets, however-some D&D supply shops sell the glue in large 28ml bottles by Gamez Workshop, and MG CHEMICALS sells 28ml bottles of it as well, bot for about $10-$15. Read the back and make sure the warning and suff says EHTYL2 CYANOACRYLATE instead of just CYANOACRYLATE, if it ain't Ethyl2 it's no good.

And as for wetsanding, yes, it can be done for the whole proscess. It's also good at the end of the painting step wth weathering and blackwash.  Regular JB weld takes over-night(16hrs-ish) to be cured enough to "enter part back into service", and you can get $20 boxes that contain 4times the amound of the little $10 packs oif the stuff. The $20 boxes have the 2 tubes inside the size of a Bondo Spotfiller/Glazing putty tube  :o







Ethyl2 Cyanoacrylate adhesive will adhere sanded(andCLEANED) metal to bondo, plastic, and even fabric(how I got the plates onto my glvoes) very well. It's all in the prep work. I ahve glued brass greebs onto bondoglass, were it is glued so well, that I have to use a knife to pry off the piece, and it rips out a crator of bondoglass underneath it :o   If you can get gelled, it would work best, but you'll also need to 'glass the inside of your hlmet for amximum strength.

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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #69 on: Sep 20, 2012, 11:33 AM »
Alright, so I grabbed myself some JB KwikWeld yesterday. I'm gonna do some light experimentation with it before I actually go to glue my helmet together, because I'm paranoid like that. Here's a pic just so that we're clear wether or not I grabbed the right stuff for the job of gluing my helmet together:



I'm assuming this stuff will also work for gluing my pistol together. Though I am curious: Would the Ethyl2 Cyanoacrylate adhesive Dresdon mentioned work just as well for both jobs?

I also grabbed some gloves from Lowes the other day that almost perfectly match my color scheme. that plus the fact that they looked cool meant that I had to have them, of course!




Aside from the various tags and such that have already been removed, the above picture points out the only trouble spots that will have to be dealt with. I'm thinking that I'll either sand the text areas down with a dremel or I'll cover it up with a hand plate, or some combination of the two. I'm also thinking about cutting the thumb, index, and middle fingers of the gloves down to half of my finger, just because it will vastly improve my functionality in said gloves, and I won't be taking them off every time I need to do something delicate. That, and because I've always liked that style of glove for some reason.

I'll have more to show on here soon, I've mad some progress on my weapons, and I actually started my guantlets!


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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #70 on: Sep 20, 2012, 06:45 PM »
Well E2C is basically extra strong super glue

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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #71 on: Sep 20, 2012, 07:14 PM »
Cool, I'll have to keep an eye out for it next time I'm shopping around, thanks!

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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #72 on: Sep 20, 2012, 07:17 PM »
It also drys faster.

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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #73 on: Sep 20, 2012, 09:50 PM »
That sounds good to me, but then again I'm impatient.  ;D

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Re: First Build WIP (Lots of pictures!) Opinions wanted!
« Reply #74 on: Sep 20, 2012, 11:30 PM »
also meens you only get one chance maybe two in order to get something lined up. just sayin if you have steady hands no problems. ;)

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