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Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit WIP ^__^
« on: Oct 29, 2013, 08:27 AM »
***  Lightsaber will not be used in this kit, it is now gong to be a beskad instead: http://mandalorianmercs.org/forum/index.php?topic=70071.0  ***

Ok, there is a first time for everything...here goes. First off, as this is my first kit, I am pretty sure I will be purchasing most of my armor pre-made, unless I can't find what I am looking for. I will revel in the assembly and of curse paint/weathering in it's stead.

These are the plans I've laid down and commuted to for my Mando, Epyon Ca'tra. If anyone is a Gundam (Wing) fan, the first name comes from that show, though I really dug it not just for the awesome mobile suit who bears the name, but for what it (arguably) means: Next. Seemed a fitting statement for a no-frills Mando. He is what I would consider a medium armor class, and works within the mid-range, meaning his primary weapon can be used for snipering if need be, but prefers the action close. He uses something akin to a blaster rifle like the ones used on the Battle of Endor (wish me luck in trying to make this beast), possibly a small side arm, and a lightsaber from one of his most prized Jedi kills.

So, my idea started out something like this, with a silver/black/chrome finish on the armor in mind. Still a little favorable of it:



But in the image it smacks of Jango muchly (not a bad thing, mind you, just not what I was shooting for).

So...

As far as colors go, I was mulling around the webz, and felt a connection with a nice luster in a copper/bronze, with an all black under armor (vest, flight suit). I whipped this up, though I am trying to figure out what color I want the visor, but am pretty sure I want it to be either reflective colored, or just midnight black. (yeah I know it's two lengths f loin cloth, but the layered effect actually struck me as cool) Now, imagine the below in a dull but still shiny copper/bronze...kinda like what the Steampunk kids are using nowadays:



Ok, so I am set on that as a base color. SO, I go into the nuances. Like I said, I wanted him to have a lightsaber, but the twist is that Epyon is left handed, like me, and has his set-ups different. At first, I really wanted (still kinda do) to use a nice rig like Rahm Kota's where he had his lightsaber on his back:





...but after a while I felt that the strap across the front would deter from the design of the chest plate, a signature of Mandalorian armor. I dunno, might fab one up to test out, see if it works. I feel its a good idea, but I also want to show off that Mando-chest, lol.

And with that, I began brainstorming an idea to still have the lightsaber on the back, but mounted with nothing strapping across the front. I decided that I could make a kydex sheath for it, and then rivet it directly to the back armor plate, at an angle, for optimum access. Having that idea out of the way, I went on to figure out what kind of helm I wanted. I really dug the Deathwatch style, like A LOT. Still do. When perusing the sale threads, I came across Saz's offerings, and stopped on the Nite Owl helm. It was then that I decided that since I liked that style a bunch as well, and Saz's helm looked so damn rad, that it was given a green light. Placed myself on the waiting list for one already (thanks Saz!) Stil looking around for what type (construction) armor I'd like, but am heavily leaning on the metal variety. Though I will most likely utilize a composite for the back panel, so that the front will not ride up from a heavy metal (!) back plate. As for the gauntlets, I am leaning to a no-frills clamshell, but the more I see gauntlets with gadgets and ordinance on them, the more I dig 'em. Oh well, more to ponder.

Having this all in mind, I had to get it onto paper, and after a quick drawing sesh with my daughter (I drew this, she drew Finn from Adventure Time), I came up with the following. Again, try to imagine it in a nice copper/bronze color, akin to this:



Ok, keep that in mind, and lookie here:



I am pretty settled on this concept. Tinkering with the colors, I had come to the realization that they are all quite earthy, and reflective of where I am from (Arizona) with the coppers and the desert tans. Totally an unconscious choice but incredibly fitting because I have thrown my lot in with the Dune Sea mercs. In the pick you can see the design I have in mind for the kydex ls back sheath, and am open to opinions and criticism, as I am with all aspects of this kit.

More on the details, I am wanting to do armored hands as well, to the fingers, something akin to this:



And on to the part that is giving me much grief...the boots. I am wanting an enclosed boot if I can pull it off, or something that has plates in front on the shins, as well as the back along the calf. Thinking of designs like this:

Jadd's shins:


Something like the Jin-Roh shins without that Germanic wing:



Clone Trooper style:


Or even blasphemy from the Jedi in something like this:



Malgus's would be ideal as well:


Anyways, I am sure I will get the most hangups on this area of the kit for sure, so, again, I am open to suggestions.

The kit itself won't be overly flashy, s that is Epyon's style, subtlety and humbleness, at once with pride and confidence. Perhaps a walking contradiction, but he pulls it off ^__^

A question about the shoulder cape and loin cloths: what fabric do you guys recommend for something weighty that I can cut into and distress, that would hang nice and not look janky? I was looking around and saw some folks achieved this with spandex blends, like swimsuit material. Not sure, I mean this is going to be my first time at this, so I have no base with which to go off of.

Appreciate you all taking the time to check my planning stages out, and would further welcome ideas and such. Thank you.







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Re: Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit planning ^__^
« Reply #1 on: Oct 29, 2013, 10:06 AM »
I think what you've got started is an amazing concept...but I will warn you...you won't get much love about the lightsaber part.

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Re: Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit planning ^__^
« Reply #2 on: Oct 29, 2013, 10:55 AM »
Yeah, see the link in my sig on lightsticks.

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Re: Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit planning ^__^
« Reply #3 on: Oct 29, 2013, 01:03 PM »
I think what you've got started is an amazing concept...but I will warn you...you won't get much love about the lightsaber part.

QFT ;)

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Re: Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit planning ^__^
« Reply #4 on: Oct 29, 2013, 05:34 PM »
Message received loud and clear lol. I will figure something else out. Was thinking of a cross draw hip holster, with the gun on the right thigh, handle pointed outwards (left handed), might be something else to look into. Pointoforigin, that link brought my head out of the clouds, and I am now more grounded for it. Easier to make flat kydex sheathes anyways, so maybe a long dagger or short sword in it's stead?

I appreciate your time and consideration, all. Thank you!

With the boots, after sitting on it last night, I came to the conclusion that if I can't pull off a fully enclosed leg armor (no reason I shouldn't be really) that I'll just get a nice pair of tall(ish) boots and fix the plates directly onto that.

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Re: Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit planning ^__^
« Reply #5 on: Oct 29, 2013, 07:04 PM »
Beskar will be used instead of the lightsaber. Going to move forward with a cross-draw thigh rig as well. Like Quaritch's from Avatar:



Also, might have a line on some nice RC shins/boots for that enclosed look...

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Re: Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit planning ^__^
« Reply #6 on: Oct 29, 2013, 08:56 PM »
Excellent. Look forward to seeing the progress. :D

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Re: Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit planning ^__^
« Reply #7 on: Nov 03, 2013, 04:35 AM »
An honest question though: Is there a stigma attached to a guy wearing a Nite Owl helm with his kit? I don't see that many (and I get it, because of the show and what not). Just sending the feelers out there, before I get too attached to the idea.

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Re: Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit planning ^__^
« Reply #8 on: Nov 03, 2013, 04:51 AM »
I know some folks think it looks funny. I do seriously wonder if that's solely because it was introduced on TCW as the helmet of a lady... there's nothing wrong with the design, and no reason why a guy can't wear it if he wants to.

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Re: Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit planning ^__^
« Reply #9 on: Nov 03, 2013, 05:33 AM »
Right on, thanks for the reply! Indeed, the helm looks awesome. I'm just gonna stick it though, and see how this plays out. I like it too much...if it doesn't work out, I'll have an excuse to go with a Deathwatch, and I can give the Nite Owl to my daughter lol.

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Re: Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit planning ^__^
« Reply #10 on: Nov 03, 2013, 12:40 PM »
Yuuuuup i dont see why you could not use it ;) Its a lovely bucket ;)

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Re: Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit planning ^__^
« Reply #11 on: Nov 03, 2013, 05:57 PM »
The Niabi thumbs-up seals the deal, this thing is now written in stone! Thanks all for the replies and encouragement, it's appreciated!

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Re: Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit planning ^__^
« Reply #12 on: Nov 03, 2013, 07:48 PM »
Drew this the other day after going over some handgun ideas with the esteemed Nassad Tal...wanting to do a little something based off the Mateba (Ghost in the Shell version) and Vash's gun from "Trigun". Pleased with the concept ^___^


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Re: Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit planning ^__^
« Reply #13 on: Nov 03, 2013, 07:52 PM »
Also, another query to the kit-makers here: I am really hooked on the back sheath idea, with just a handle hanging out. I am liking the idea of it maybe being a darksaber, but I know since there was really only that one of note, it might look like some more "god grabbing" and would smack of me trying to be too much awesome at once. But what about like a collapsible blade concept or something? We Mando's are always thinking of new ways to hunt and main, I am sure this idea has come up before, lol.

Thoughts?

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Re: Epyon Ca'tra (1st) kit planning ^__^
« Reply #14 on: Dec 02, 2013, 03:51 AM »
A few things have changed on my main idea (I guess why this is called "planning" lol) since my outset on making my first kit. BIG news is that, on top of the Saz Nite Owl bucket on the way, but my wife ordered me an NME Stalker bucket as well, saying it was "too cool looking" to not have one. So now I will have a second bucket to paint and weather ^__^

Decided also that I am not going to be ordering much of my kit at all, and will be scratch-building as much as I can of it.  did order the buckets, and will be using some RC boots/shins (James), but other than that I am going to be doing it all, using abs for my plates. I am also toying with the idea of implementing a cybernetic/prosthetic arm on the right side to further enhance the idea of a left-handed Mando. I'd be doing the gauntlet/arm off a Iron Man design (minus the repulsor and riser parts) and meshing into something sytlized as to what Briareos from Appleseed, or Edward Elric from FMA has going on.

Have been shopping around for colors, and have decided on something here:

Krylon Hammered Copper


Rustoleum Hammered Dark Bronze


Leaning more on the dark bronze as of now... I know, not as bright as the steampunkish coppers go, but this suits me more. I am sure it will play.

I will be getting my sheets on Friday, and with luck, will have some progress pics up soon enough. For now, I am fabbing up/modding my M14 as my main weapon, to keep me busy.

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